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Deornoth Drake
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Posted - 2013.10.12 14:57:00 -
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My feedback
- Targeting ... only matching xxx Sensor Compensation Skill should be required for each ship
- Navigation ... Micro Jump Drive Operation ... handled already in another post
- Navigation ... move Jump Drive Operations into an own group, then you can apply that group to the corresponding capital ships and the black ops
- Resource Harvesting ... Ice Harvesting only required for mining barges / exhumers, so not required for Mining Frigates
- Resource Harvesting ... Gas Cloud Harvesting should only be required for Mining Frigates, so not required for Mining Barges / Exhumers
- Drones ... difficult with their specializations but I would only require the matching racial Drone specialization skill. This would go along with the turrets, i.e. you only require the matching racial favorite (e.g. hybrid guns) not the remaining two or even missiles
Basically, consider each ship on it's own when defining the skills/levels required for each mastery. You want to help the people become proficient with that single ship.
If you don't want to put that much effort into the mastery, any time applied is too much, since it won't help.
In other words, it's good to have excellent shield skills when flying an armor ship (e.g. amarr) but the mastery levels for of the group shield should require lowers skill levels then the according mastery levels of a shield ship (e.g. caldari). Then people of armor ships would notice that the mastery of the ship requires higher skill levels in the armor group then in the shield group. This would help.
To sum up: The mastery of the ship should really match that single ship! Some mastery levels may be generalized for groups of ships, as you suggested for navigation (non-BS, BS) or racial (e.g. Amarr require higher levels of armor skills, caldari require higher levels of shield skills) but in the end the mastery should match that single ship |

Deornoth Drake
Black Hole Squadron
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Posted - 2013.10.13 10:58:00 -
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Consider the exhumers (max. locked targets 4)
Mastery ... Targeting ... (Advanced) Target Management Level V mastery requires Advanced Target Management V really, do you have to be able to handle that many targets with a ship that can handle only 4 (before adding modules)
Just another example that it's better to determine what is useful for each ship on it's own instead of applying generalized mastery things. |

Deornoth Drake
Black Hole Squadron
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Posted - 2013.10.13 11:00:00 -
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Mastery ... Capital Remote Shield Booster What are Logistics and Tactical Logistics Reconfiguration doing in there? They are required for carriers but nor for Rorquals |

Deornoth Drake
Black Hole Squadron
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Posted - 2013.10.24 19:23:00 -
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Once more ... mastery ...
Are jump freighters affected by "Capital Ships" skill? According to the description, I don't think so. Hence, I'm surprised to see the "Capital Ships" skill within the mastery group "Capital Navigation" starting from mastery III on.
I can only repeat my opinion: If you want to have useful system of mastery and certificate, work out what is required for each thing on it's own! |

Deornoth Drake
Black Hole Squadron
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Posted - 2013.11.08 05:31:00 -
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Split Resource Harvesting into related (at least) topics:
- Ore Mining: Include xxx Processing Skill IV due to usage of T2 crystals. Required for Mining Frigates, Mining Barges, Exhumers (feel free to split it further apart, e.g. high, med, low ores)
- Mercoxit Mining: separate due to Mercoxit being the only ore requiring Deep Core Mining, also include Mercoxit Processing IV. Required for Mining Frigates, Mining Barges, Exhumers
- Ice Harvesting. Required for Mining Barges and Exhumers
- Gas Cloud Harvesting. Required for Mining Frigates only.
Same for Refining - Ore Refining (split similar to Ore Mining) - Mercoxit Refining - Ice Refining |

Deornoth Drake
Black Hole Squadron
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Posted - 2013.11.12 17:40:00 -
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CCP Ytterbium wrote:Hey people,
Been away from this thread for some time, but I wanted to bring an update regarding the industry and research certificates; we are aware they are quite clumsy at the moment. I mainly had time to focus on the ship certificates to make sure they were well integrated with the ISIS and could not refine them based on your comments.
However, we've planned an iteration task to make industry / research Certificates less generic and more granular. It's planned for Rubicon 1.1, so we'll keep updating this thread from time to time with feedback.
Thanks for your time.
Good to hear!
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